[Adrienne Chang]

Thanks Paul. Wow, so much here!

“RK: When we rest in alaya in our regular shamatha practice, the only thing I find to rest in is still a kind of vibrating. It is as if thoughts are being thrown out, and I am bubbling and throwing them out. There is no sense of complete peace, but there is a sense of being behind the thoughts as they come out. Is that the lower alaya?

VCTR: It could be seeing the lower alaya, though connected with the luminous aspect a little bit. If you are in the state of fickleness, you cannot see it because you are it. You begin to see it because you are beginning to be a little steady; therefore you have a reference point. The reason you see the fickleness might be because the luminous aspect allows you to step back a little.”

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